Moved out! Everything is here it smells like old apartment but thats quickly dissipating thanks to good ol slow cooker and his best friends onion and red wine.
Cil I hope you’re doing well! Same with friends! Benny should be here in like an hour and a half fingers crossed he makes it in one piece
why is Ursula shunned from King Triton’s society? does it have something to do with being more powerful than him? why does King Triton have a magical trident, being otherwise a pretty regular merman? Ursula is a witch, if anyone should have a magical artifact it should be her, did King Triton steal it?
and finally, Ursula didn’t do Ariel much wrong
Ariel wanted some legs (and a vagina) and Ursula told her flat out that in the surface world you can have a vagina or a voice, not both
i’d watch the hell out of a movie about Ursula
“Ursula told her flat out that in the surface world you can have a vagina or a voice, not both”
ohhhh shit though, ursula was being too real about the world
although perhaps a bit too literal
Okay, these were all excellent points and I’ll never see The Little Mermaid the same way again.
I laughed at that caption at first then the reality actually hit me
you can have a vagina or a voice, not both”
Okay I gotta point out it was totes stated the girl was banished for her black magic, and we see in story that she eats one of the merfolk cursed into seaweed, so she’s straight up a cannibal, either by necessity or desire so that’s already points against her, ~propoganda~ or no.
In the stage musical, which expands on a lot, and since it uses songs Alan Menken and Howard Ashman worked on that were cut for time or plot purposes, one can say the story’s like an earlier draft of the movie we end up with, or a director’s cut, depending on how you wish to take it. Ursula is Princess Ursula, exiled daughter of Poseidon, and sister to Triton. The magic conch shell is one of Poseidon’s treasures along with the trident, and each were given the artifact from their father. She used it tto enslave entire seas and DEVOURED merfolk fish and humans alike. Triton removed her from power by taking her crown and banishing her close by where he could keep an eye on her. The whole plot with her revolves around taking revenge for taking what’s hers, which was taken in the first place because she was a hedonistic tyrant and GLEEFULLY so. She even states that the first thing she’ll do when she knocks off Triton’s crown is to debone him, and then leaves it at that so we can fill int he blanks after talking nonstop about eating fish and merfolk alike.
And the reason she makes a trade with Ariel’s voice is for the reasons you’re all pointing out, but in complete and utter pettiness. She could choose anything, but she wants that “sweet-voiced trollop” to learn that a woman “doesn’t know how precious her voice is until it’s been silenced.” She wants to teach her own niece a lesson in gratitude in the worst possible way JUST BECAUSE her father, Ursula’s brother, took away her toys and put her in time out. And then use Ariel as bait and blackmail to get what she wants.
I get why people want to rewrite villains, to want to justify rooting for htem more, but really if you wanna appreciate a good villain, they’re already complex people with a lot of depth and intrigue. Not all characters have to be sympathetic to be enjoyed.